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Lemon Squeezer

Headgear and helmets of WWI and WWII

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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby LeeG » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:16 am

This is a great thread. Attached are photos of a well worn lemon squeezer I recently acquired with no markings, no sweatband, no pug, and a replaced (but original) badge). Any opinions as to whether it is WW1 or WW2?
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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby LeeG » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:19 am

Here is the top of the cap.
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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby LeeG » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:20 am

Side shot.
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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby LeeG » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:21 am

inside of the cap
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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby LeeG » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:22 am

Closeup of inside badge and remains of sweatband.
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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby nbroadarrowz » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:11 am

Lee,
Welcome to the forum. I look forward to seeing more of your WW1 collection.
Your lemon squeezer is a WW2 example. I can see vent holes in the side of the crown. These are only pin ***** size and on your example are on the side ridge and partly obsqured by the ridge line. Vents were added in December 1939.

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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby LeeG » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:24 pm

Yes there is indeed a vent on each side -- hard to see as it is along the crease of the cap. Here is a closeup to try and show the perforations.
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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby atillathenunns » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:59 pm

This hat has an interesting liner made of a material similar to an oilcloth material.
I have only encouted this type of lining on felt hats made post WW2 by the NZ Hat Factory.
Do any forum members have a WW2 lemon squeezer with this type of liner????
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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby sigcollector » Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:07 pm

Hi

Was this the Hat on Ebay.

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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby Bond » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:53 pm

My first and perhaps only ever LS felt hat as they are almost never seen in the UK, which might be the for the best with this iconic item of NZ headgear, though that is a debate for another thread perhaps.

It was for sale as a scout hat and with the leather band I assume it was used as one, though it has the NZ military forces embossing on the sweat band and also has the circular pattern of small vent holes either side. To my eyes this makes it a post 1939 WWII issue version. As already mentioned it is missing its original pug band, though I do have an original NZ onward badge for it. For me in the UK, getting an original pug band is highly unlikely, though I hope to perhaps one day find one! The dome is out of shape as it had been flattened during years of storage.

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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby nbroadarrowz » Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:34 am

Bond,
I am sure you will be able to pick up a pugaree but you will have to get the correct size.
To big looks silly and to small, will squeeze the hat out of shape.
There is a possiblity that the hat is a post war example. Brought as surplus and only ever used as a scout hat.
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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby Bond » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:39 pm

Thanks Barry for commenting. As you say it could be post war old stock.
As far as the pug band size, are they classed as the same size as the hat or is it best to measure the outside of the dome? I doubt I'll find one in the UK any time soon so if anyone over there knows of a loose example for sale, please message me.
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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby nbroadarrowz » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:19 pm

Bond,
The puggaree size will be the size of the hat.
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Re: Lemon Squeezer

Postby Bond » Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:49 am

Thanks Barry.
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